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Malone is hurting and may be out. Fisher is hurting. George is also banged up and has been cold. Payton is really showing his age. With Malone hurt or out Rasheed Wallace should go wild. This will also free up RIP as LA will have to do something to stop Wallace. I'm taking Det every game in Det.GL
 

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Well, we got to fade you or SHRINK now.

2 good fades and opp sides. Damn
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posted June 10, 2004 04:32 AM
Since he lies about his records we will keep tabs on him here. Last year he went 1-9 in the first week of College football, but said it didn't count on his record because he didn't post it at TFZ.
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posted June 10, 2004 04:33 AM
Wed 6-9-04

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SF -198 Schmidt


SF - 198(loser)

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the NBA forum at the RX.

Because you are a walking, talking, typing DICK.

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Raiders you went 1-9 in college footballs first week, but said you weren't counting it because you didn't post them at TFZ. They were posted in a different place so it didn't count for your record. You are a joke.

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You guys are easy money in contests. I beat up on Shack in the head to head contest and beat MFG many times in other contest such as the sweet 16. I don't remember MFG ever making it out of the first round. The only reason I respond to you idiots is to make $ off of you guys and warn others of your scams.

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I won a free trip to Vegas with my capping and as i remember you finished near the bottom in the same contest. You tried to warn everone of me scamming Royal and i got paid, so clearly i wasn't scamming but you won't let the facts stand in the way of your lies. Not to mention your the one who scammed me out of $250 dollars. Don't act like your shit don't stink, boy.

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I've won many contests including the $250 from you. I won $1000 from PanAM, $750 from Rio, $250 from Royal + many others and I've entered less than 10 contests. The time that you won was in the losers contest. You never finished higher in a winners contest.

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If it was a losers contest and you entered then your admiting your a loser. I'm not the one on here bragging about how many contest i've won. Hell, you've entered alot more contest than i have. So ****ing what, i gamble to win money not win chump change in a nickel and dime contest. I just don't have the time for it like you.

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Shack- So we are suppose to believe that you are betting those -1000 ML bets for big money. You just won't quit.

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If you had a brain you could graduate to being retarted.



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So how much do you risk on these huge chalk plays or are they just a way to pad your record?
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-1000
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-998
-539
-1000
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More money than you make scrubing pots and pans.

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Shack's record padding plan worse than first suspected.
Shack
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SHACK

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Lakers - 1550 ML
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Lakers are too deep and GS is shorthanded still.
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-455
-700
-500
-1550
-1300
-450
-1000
-1000
-1200
-998
-539
-1000
-800
-1300
-650
-790

why would anyone post a play at -1550 and think that winning a game like this is the same as a guy posting at -110?

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Looks like more jealousy to me Raiders. Did Shack loose one of his big ML plays....................of course not because you would of made a big deal out of it. So Shack goes 16-0 and you still find fault. I know, you think if you go 3-6 with dogs at +150 it makes you the better capper than the guy that goes 16-0 playing favorites.
Every post you make makes you look more stupid Raiders. Come to the rubber room and get torn up sometime. Oh yea, you got kicked out of there because you kept calling Shrink a liar. Things that make you go hmmm. You are a loser, give up little guy.
Shack just won 20 units on action points yesterday on the Pistons. Where is your post on that. You are hopeless.
Only you could find something negative of a 16-0 record. You are clueless.

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Throw out the unrealistic ML plays of -450 or more and Shack has a losing record.

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Raiders -- Selective hearing and monitoring of plays again. Throw out the other picks and Shack is 16-0. Get a clue boy, you must be mad because you played some big ML's and it came back and bit you in the ass. Shack goes 16-0 and you try it and go 3-5. Just admit that you suck Raiders and your jealous of Shacks basketball profits. Then he won 20 units on the Pistons Sunday, what do you say about that. Nothing-jealousy is the topic of the day for you again.

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MFG- You have the second worst all time posting record. Only Kodiak is worse and you claim to be up money. Shack was getting beat too and then he started padding his record with -1550 ML plays to make it look good. You are both

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Hey don't leave out Co-Capt!

He is currently down about 70 units in baseball at the RX and is gunning for kodiak's record.

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I forgot about CoCapt. He passed up MFG and is on his way to the record


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MFG_____331-352_____-64.01 UNITS____-994.12units
KODIAK__1134-1129__-164.93 UNITS___14261.02units



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I've had one losing season at the RX. Baseball last year. You have lost 77% of the seasons. Get a clue.

After week 8 of NFL last year you were 38-47 and I felt sorry for you at had to stop tracking you. Everyone in the rubber room was laughing at you and your record when I posted mine and yours side by side. One of the trackers said you finished around 40%, but I haven't confirmed it yet.



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Raiders - You were around 40% in football last year.

My totals for football last year: Please pull them all up and post here. That will give you something to do with your time besides losing money on your plays.

College 43-25, + 15.5 units at 1 each
NFL Regular season 56-26, +26.57 units at 1 each
NFL Playoffs 14-7, + 5.63 units at 1 each
Total NFL 70-33, +32.20 units at 1 each
Combined NFL and College, 113-58 + 47.8 units based on one each.

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MFG- Give it a break with your phony numbers. You got murdered playing action points in NCAA football. I think it was 30 units in one game. I've been posting for 3 years now and have had only one losing season in a sport and that was NFL football 2003. All other sports and years I've had a winning record. We've matched up in many contests and you've always dropped out before me. Guys were begging to get matched up with you in the sweet 16 contests.

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MFG is worse than Shack when it comes to padding
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Tulsa + 7.5(Royal)
Tulsa + 7.5 - action points


Georgia Tech under Chan Gailey-comfort zone coaching and playing to win. Last years bowl game they were playing conservative and ugly. I think this Tulsa team comes out fired up and brings home the winner. Could play this one on action points as well.
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n Bowl 1 2 3 4 Total
Georgia Tech 7 3 21 21 52 Final
Tulsa 0 3 0 7 10



MFG loses 34.5 units on action points but doesn't count it. LMAO Makes it easy to have a winning record when you throw out the losers. You do this in all sports. That's why I called you out.

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Selective viewing and hearing for you again Raiders. My action points was not for a 35 point cap dipshit. Do you even know what action points are and how they work? In the same thread I posted my halftime pick and it was on Georgia Tech. I said to hedge all out of your action points and take Georgia Tech. So, where is that post, oh yea, that doesn't serve your agenga does it? You are a joke Raiders. You are a disgrace to any site you post at.

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Liar- You made a HT bet to hedge the game bet. You set no cap on the action points so you lost 34.5 units.


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Georgia Tech ML - 176 2nd half(Pinnacle).

Hedging my game bet. Tulsa can not score.
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Hedging my game bet


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You are clueless. Obviously you have never bet action points. There is no such thing as "no cap."
When action points are at 7.5 for the game that is a game bet. Once again selective viewing. Once again, no brain.

You must be one bored ****er to go through all this trouble to be shown up once again. Nice try.
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Damn Raiders how ****ing stupid are you??? If you have no cap as your implying then there is no bet. Obviously you have never made a action point bet before. Too bad no one is down here to see what a nickel and dime dumbass gambler you really are.



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MFG: You bet Tulsa +7.5 action points. You lost by 34.5 points and didn't count the loss against your record. You and Shack have no idea what you are talking about. Some places set a max cap at 20. In this case you would have lost 20 units. Other places have no cap. Since you set no cap you lost 34.5 units. Why do you only count the wins but not the losses?

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Shack- Since you are small time you don't realize it but credit customers at Oly can play no cap. Also if you have enough money in your account you can play no cap. You may never be in the situation to play no cap but many are in that situation.

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There is no hope for you Raiders. You are a ****ing retarding, dumb ****. You don't know what the **** you are talking about.
Just because you go 1-9 and don't count it on your record doesn't mean everyone does it.

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MFG- There's nothing that I can learn about gambling from you and Shack. You played Tulsa +7.5 action points. When it lost big you didn't count the game against your record. You throw out lots of losses.

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The game is in my record dipshit. Can you add 1 + 20 = 21.

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Where did he say he wanted a 35 point cap???????

Your the absolute dumbest person i have ever come across in my life. You just make shit up and expect people to believe it.


AGAIN WHERE DOES IT SAY HE WANTED A 35 POINT CAP???????????????????

It doesn't and your just trying to make him look bad and all you do is make yourself look ignorant.


At least come up with something good, is that all you could come up with in the last two days. Everyone knows your no life having ass has been researching all MFG's post at the RX. You are such a loser. You must envy us to spend all that time going back through all our post at the RX, a place you were banned from.

I challenge you to a 5k cap off in Vegas during the RX bash. We can find a someone there to hold the money.

But we both know your a little pussy and wouldn't show not to mention you've never seen 5k. Now **** off chump.


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QUOTE
Tulsa + 7.5(Royal)
Tulsa + 7.5 - action points



MFG- You only counted one loss. You counted the game but not the action points

Shack- He didn't list a cap. He lost by 34.5 points ATS which means he lost 34.5 units. What don't you understand about this? Have you ever played action points?

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Shack- I'm banned at the RX and will not be at the RX party. Also you didn't pay the full amount of the last bet you lost to me. You only paid $250 of a $1000. There's no way that I'll ever trust you again.

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QUOTE (raiders72001 @ Jun 9 2004, 01:50 PM)
Liar- You made a HT bet to hedge the game bet. You set no cap on the action points so you lost 34.5 units.


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Georgia Tech ML - 176 2nd half(Pinnacle).

Hedging my game bet. Tulsa can not score.
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Hedging my game bet



When I and everyone else but you says hedging my game bet, Tulsa can not score. Means they are taking the other side. That's why it's called hedging dipshit. Tulsa action points + 7.5 is a game bet dipshit. Not a first half bet dipshit. Shut the **** up. When I said Tulsa sucked and couldn't score and was switching to the other side, only someone as STUPID as you would think I meant I I love action points at +7.5(and this is by your statement was a 35 unit play), but hate it so much I will hedge the one unit play but keep the other side at an unlimited risk amount.
So Raiders, MR STUPID, is saying he bets with unlimited risk on plays and then if he wants to hedge it he hedges just 3% of it. Then, his credit is so good that he can take on unlimited risk. I guess you've never traded stocks on margin either. Once again, as always, you are agenda driven and never have a leg to stand on. I would rank all your posts in this thread as the most RETARDED posts I've seen all year.

Even your shills don't want any part of your stupidity.

RAIDERS-YOU ARE THE MOST STUPID MOTHER ****ING BABY THAT HAS EVER LIVED ON THIS PLANET.

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MFG- You are lying. You never counted the play against your record. You said you wanted to hedge the game bet but nothing about the action point bet. That's why even BucsFan said he wanted nothing to do with you.


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MFG posted record before Tulsa
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Play for Sat(YTD 40-24)



MFG final rposted record
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Final College results for the year end at 43-25.



Why do you throw out losses? You've been doing this since day one. At least Shack is a little more sneaky in the way he pads his record.

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Once again.....agenda driven dipshit. Quit covering up the facts and pull up a link to the entire thread dipshit. You lubricating the thread and taking one word out that you like out of every 20 just keeps making you look more stupid by the second.

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Link

You came in to the Tulsa game with 24 losses and ended the year with 25. LMAO You're the biggest record padder out there. You had a losing season in NCAA football yet claim to win big.

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24 + 1 = 25 dipshit. I'll make it easier on you and post the entire thread.

posted January 03, 2004 09:39 AM
Tulsa + 7.5(Royal)
Tulsa + 7.5 - action points


Georgia Tech under Chan Gailey-comfort zone coaching and playing to win. Last years bowl game they were playing conservative and ugly. I think this Tulsa team comes out fired up and brings home the winner. Could play this one on action points as well.
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I'm taking:

GT PK - 125 3rd qtr.

Tulsa can't score unless they get a turnover. They are horrible and get the ball which is actully a negative imo.
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excellent observation...probably time to bail!!!!!
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Georgia Tech ML - 176 2nd half(Pinnacle).

Hedging my game bet. Tulsa can not score.
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I didn't put a pick on the forum But i did exactly what you did. I took Tulsa in the game and bailed out of it in the 3rd q with G. Tech. My god what mismatch.
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Nate-Thanks. Yes I had seen enough by halftime. I like it when I know I'm wrong and just admit it and reverse course for the second half.

Gil-No doubt. I love it when I can bail out of sorry ass picks I've made during the game. I just sit and say, if they can just put up a fight until halftime I will be all over the other team. It worked nice for me today.




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Why didn't you count the action bet as a loss? You counted every bet that won as a win but once again you didn't count all the losses.

What's really funny is AFTER THE GAME you claim to have bailed yourself out. According to your plays BEFORE THE GAME you lost big. You hedged at the half to cover the game but not the action bet.

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Your just jealous because you had Tulsa on the game and lost, but never threw in the towel and took Ga Tech like I did. I ended up making money on the game and you had the big goose egg. But, since you never post your records I'm sure you will claim you hit 90 percent winners last year.

YOU ARE TOO STUPID FOR ME TO INTERACT WITH.

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I was monitored at the RX in NCAA football and was #1.

Can you show me where in your record that you recorded the Tulsa action bet as a loss? I didn't think so.



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27 .. 12 .. 1 .. 13.8 .. 44 .. 31.36% .. 1.10 .. 13.8 .. Raiders
15 .. 7 .. 1 .. 7.3 .. 25.3 .. 28.85% .. 1.10 .. 7.3 .. omahamoneymaker
38 .. 28 .. 2 .. 85.9 .. 595.1 14.43% .. 8.75 .. 7.2 .. Kodiak7
49 .. 35 .. 1 .. 11.35 .. 93.2 .. 12.18% .. 1.10 .. 10.5 .. NASDAQ
19 .. 14 .. 0 .. 3.6 .. 36.3 .. 9.92% .. 1.10 .. 3.6 .. McIrish
26 .. 21 .. 1 .. 4.15 .. 52.5 .. 7.90% .. 1.09 .. 2.9 .. RobFunk
40 .. 44 .. 1 .. 47.9 .. 897.6 .. 5.34% .. 10.56 .. -8.4 .. RX-Maniac
12 .. 10 .. 0 .. 1 .. 24.2 .. 4.13% .. 1.10 .. 1 .. Dan Tanna
13 .. 13 .. 1 .. 2.5 .. 62.7 .. 3.99% .. 2.32 .. -1.3 .. nysports
37 .. 36 .. 0 .. -14.6 .. 503.9 .. -2.90% .. 6.90 .. -2.6 .. NY Reb
18 .. 17 .. 1 .. -6.6 .. 146.25 .. -4.51% .. 4.06 .. -0.7 .. WinOne
6 .. 6 .. 0 .. -0.6 .. 13.2 .. -4.55% .. 1.10 .. -0.6 .. mightyvol
22 .. 22 .. 0 .. -3.9 .. 62.7 .. -6.22% .. 1.43 .. -2.2 .. mo beer
7 .. 8 .. 1 .. -1.8 .. 17.6 .. -10.23% .. 1.10 .. -1.8 .. action
20 .. 23 .. 1 .. -5.3 .. 48.4 .. -10.95% .. 1.10 .. -5.3 .. bloodhounds
15 .. 19 .. 2 .. -5.1 .. 45.1 .. -11.31% .. 1.25 .. -5.9 .. KMAN
9 .. 15 .. 1 .. -7.39 .. 56.34 .. -13.12% .. 2.25 .. -7.5 .. two_headed_monster
7 .. 10 .. 0 .. -6.3 .. 46.2 .. -13.64% .. 2.72 .. -4 .. SECprophet
20 .. 19 .. 0 .. -16.45 .. 119.8 .. -13.73% .. 3.07 .. -0.9 .. Prophetable Picks
23 .. 34 .. 1 .. -24.5 .. 174.8 .. -14.02% .. 3.01 .. -14.4 .. DR. DEATH
6 .. 9 .. 1 .. -15.7 .. 71.5 .. -21.96% .. 4.47 .. -3.9 .. slvrgbln
14 .. 20 .. 0 .. -15.9 .. 70.18 .. -22.66% .. 2.06 .. -8 .. Blacklab
8 .. 13 .. 1 .. -13.6 .. 47.3 .. -28.75% .. 2.15 .. -6.3 .. mossreport
4 .. 7 .. 0 .. -3.7 .. 12.2 .. -30.33% .. 1.11 .. -3.7 .. Madcapper
8 .. 12 .. 1 .. -14.5 .. 44 .. -32.95% .. 2.10 .. -5.2 .. Sixth Sense
27 .. 42 .. 1 .. -88.8 .. 245.3 .. -36.20% .. 3.50 .. -19.2 .. sammy the sage
8 .. 13 .. 1 .. -16.4 .. 42.8 .. -38.32% .. 1.95 .. -6.3 .. Panther
9 .. 21 .. 1 .. -106.89 .. 211.83 .. -50.46% .. 6.83 .. -14.1 .. Rex Foster
2 .. 4 .. 0 .. -10.95 .. 15.15 .. -72.28% .. 2.53 .. -2.4 .. SSI


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Do you have a life Raiders?

Action Point on Tulsa I lost 1.1 units, and I hedged it at halftime. All my bets are to win one unit if for the favorite or to risk one unit on the dog. I posted that several times at the beginning of the season, too bad you just try to fabricate after the fact. I also won on action points on the Rams in the NFL when they beat the Steelers, and I didn't put that in my individual game record either dumbass.
You still have a 1-9 NCAA day that you haven't accounted for. You need to get your shit together. Now I see why you don't want people to post their records at TFZ, it's because it would be too hard for you to lie about your record at the end of the year because no one other than you has the time to go back and add up someone's record one year after the fact.

I see you lost another big chalky on SF - 198 tonight.

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BUT I'LL SAY THIS, AFTER THIS DAY, I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR YOU MFG.....

YOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR COLORS TO ME TODAY, AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH YOU ON THIS BOARD OR ANYWHERE ELSE.......





MFG you lost 1.1 units on the game Tulsa +7.5. You placed another bet on Tulsa +7.5 action points. You lost 34.5 units and had a losing football season.

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No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills!
posted July 27, 2003 01:16 AM
Bucs and MC

First of all I want to thank you guys for running a very fun contest, I have had a blast with this. This is my first year of trying to cap Baseball and this contest and helped me emensly. I thank you two for that.

Secondly, with a contest comes the people who run it, you two are running this contest out of the kindness of your heart and dedecating hours upon hours for it.

I feel your pain when you run into people like MFG in situations like this. I use to host poker tournaments on another site (free tourneys) and do all the work manually (hours upon hours of work for no compensation! but I loved doing. I ran these poker tourneys for about 4 years before the site I hosted at stopped them. There were good times and bad, bad being people like MFG, but all in all I got a great feeling out of running them and the good out wheighed the bad. To come to the point, You guys do a great job here and I hope you let the good out weigh the bad this situation and continue on running contests.

MFG, grow up or go seek professional therapy




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99% of posters on Raiders "The guy is a joke. The RX went downhill when he started posting there. He is the biggest fraud there is."

Only the most stupid ****ER which is RAIDERS would bet 150 games at one unit and then play a game that he thought was ok for infinity risk. Get a clue you STUPID ****ER.


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Jman on MFG breaking the rules in yet another contest
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posted August 10, 2003 02:57 PM
MFG ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!

WTF IS THIS PIECE OF WORK HERE?

Taking opposite side is highly unethical against the integrity of this tournament, you know better!

This is exactly why contests are frowned upon , MFG I cannot believe you pulled this stunt





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